The transcript below is from the video “Quentin Tarantino on the Bruce Lee “Hollywood” Controversy” by PowerfulJRE.

PowerfulJRE:

Quentin Terantino talks to Joe Rogan about the controversy surrounding his portrayal of Bruce Lee in the movie Once Upon a Time… In Hollywood.

Joe Rogan:

Another thing in ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ that got controversial was the Bruce Lee scenes.

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan:

A lot of people felt like you, you made Bruce Lee into an asshole.

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah well okay. That’s again.

I’m a little hesitant to talk about this because I don’t want this to be the only thing people will pull from from this show. But I figured you were going to bring it up, especially because I heard you guys go back and forth on it, a little bit.

Quentin Tarantino:

I mean where I’m coming from is, I can understand his daughter having a problem with it, it’s her fucken father, all right. I get that!

But anybody else go suck a dick!

And you know, the thing about it is, even if you just look at it, it’s obvious Cliff tricked him. That’s how he was able to do it. He tricked him!

You know? It’s like, it’s, it’s, it’s explained more in the book. But the thing is, like they do a three-fall…two falls out of three contest.

So Cliff, loves shit like that, you know? Uh, uh, and he has a method. A and his method is, to give the guy the first fall.

Okay, do your fucken move dude!

Joe Rogan:

Right!

Quentin Tarantino:

Let me see your move. All right he gives them no resistance,
whatsoever. The guy does the move. He knocks him on his ass.

And Cliff, and there’s like four different ways Bruce could have come at
him the second time.

Quentin Tarantino:

That Cliff wouldn’t would have had very little defense against.

But, most of the time, if if a guy has a particular move and it looks
like the guy’s a lung kid, just a big mouth.

Who can’t really defend himself.

They do the second move again. I mean they do the first move again s second time.

Well now Cliff knows what it is.

So he prepares for it, he pivots, he catches him and he throws his ass into the car.

Joe Rogan:

Right.

Quentin Tarantino:

And now the third time will be the charm and it gets broken up.

But he just tricked him.

Quentin Tarantino:

And Bruce realized he got tricked. If Cliff hadn’t been so vicious, he could have even appreciated it.

Joe Rogan:

Do you know about the history of Bruce Lee and Gene Labell?

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah of course.

Joe Rogan:

Did you research that before?

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah well, I’ve always known it and everything. And like, well the stuntman hated Bruce.

Joe Rogan:

Really?

Quentin Tarantino:

On, on, on, on, uh, Green Hornet. No. It’s in Matthew Paulie’s book. And before that, it’s always been known. That’s why Gene Labell was brought on. To teach Bruce respect for American stuntmen. Bruce had nothing but disrespect for stuntman. And he was always hitting them. He was always hitting them with his feet. He was always “tagging us”, it’s called tagging.

Joe Rogan:

Mmmmmm.




Quentin Tarantino:

When you hit a stuntman for real. And he was always tagging him with his feet. And he was always tagging him with his fist. And they got to be the point where like, “No!”, I refused to work with him.

Joe Rogan:

Really?!

Quentin Tarantino:

And he had nothing, but disrespect for American stuntmen.

Joe Rogan:

Huh! That’s interesting. I wonder what that was about? I wonder what his perspective would have been if somebody asked him to explain it.

Quentin Tarantino:

Uh, it’s like, uh, “wow they’re just not good enough. They’re pussies”.

Joe Rogan:

Hmm.

Quentin Tarantino:

“I’m gonna make it look real.”

Joe Rogan:

Okay? So he was hitting him to make it look real?!

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah.

Joe Rogan:

Yeah.

Quentin Tarantino:

But they don’t like that.

Joe Rogan:

No!

Quentin Tarantino:

That’s unprofessional!

Joe Rogan:

Well that is unprofessional, but that’s been done before in a bunch of movies by people that people say are assholes.

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah and yeah, and well, yeah, and and um, you know. And actually somebody else who had a reputation pretty similar to Bruce Lee’s in that regards was Robert Conrad.

Joe Rogan:

Oh yeah?

Quentin Tarantino:

During that time, yeah. And you know he did a lot of his own stunts. And he did some really, really gnarly shit.

But if you and I’ve always been a big fan of Robert Conrad. But you know, in the stunt community, he was known as Robert never met a stunt man he couldn’t blame Conrad.

Joe Rogan:

Mmmm. The stunt world is a fucken crazy world because they’re the people that occasionally die making movies.

Quentin Tarantino:

Yeah absolutely.

Joe Rogan:

Which is just nuts.

Quentin Tarantino:

And look and the thing about it is also. Cliff is a hand-to-hand combat killer. He, you know, you know he fought in World War 2. He fought with the Filipino resistant fighters. You know in the Philippines against the Japanese. If Cliff fought Bruce Lee at one of Aaron Banks’s Madison Square Garden tournaments. Cliff wouldn’t stand a chance against Bruce Lee at a Madison Marden martial arts tournament.

But as a killer who has killed men before in a jungle. He’d kill Bruce Lee. He’d fucken kill him. Bruce Lee’s not a killer. Bruce Lee’s never really let loose on anybody. He’s always had to keep it together in a martial arts tournament, kind of, kind of, kind of way.

If he’s actually facing a guy who could actually kill him it’s a different story. You know it’s, it’s, it’s in the book. Bruce Lee realizes when Cliff takes a hand to hand, a military hand-to-hand combat stance.

You know, he realized ‘oh shit this guy’s a killer’. ‘This guy’s not fighting me, he’s fighting his instinct to kill me.’




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